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ASOIAF Tudor counterparts by SingerofIceandFire ASOIAF Tudor counterparts by SingerofIceandFire
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Well this is my opinion :D

The strong, respected woman
Catelyn Stark and Catherine of Aragon

The unpopular queen
Cersei Lannister and Anne Boleyn

The clever one
Margaery Tyrell and Jane Seymour

From pawn to queen
Sansa Stark and Elizabeth I

Well I've always admired both Catelyn and Catherine :) their lives are miserable, their children taken away from them yet the can still stay headstrong with regal and class taking no nonsense form pathetic people :hooray:

Cersei and Anne; two of the most ridiculous women I have ever heard of :furious: they were unpopular, hated, mocked and jeered at, used their body to get what they wanted (how demeaning :puke:)

Margaery and Jane played Anne at Cersei at their own game, but knew what to do ;) They knew they had to keep the king happy and Jane knew she had to win Mary Tudor over.

But I do see a bit of Catherine of Aragon in Margaery, especially at her arrest where everyone was demanding for her to be freed. It was like when the English refused to acknowledge Anne over Catherine :D

Sansa and Elizabeth is obvious :D
*they were both seen as the weakest of their siblings
*branded a traitor's daughter
*had to win people over in order to survive
*they didn't lash out
* they stayed calm and regal, thus they lived long enough
*it was a strength that waited for her time to rule :)
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gagnorblu Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013
Robert has got to be Henry VIII.
bookgrl63 Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013
Sansa's relationship with Littlefinger reminds me of Elizabeth and Thomas Seymour.
JohnnyClark Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
mmm its an interesting comparison...
But I see Cersei more like Lucrezia Borgia than Ann Boleyn. First there is the incestous relationship with their brother (Jaime Lannister and Cesare Borgia), then there are described as women of an incredible beauty, both blond, both smart and cunning. The main difference is that Lucrezia knew her place as a female and used it as her advantage, while Cersei fight her nature and that make her weak
SingerofIceandFire Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012
The Lannisters always reminded me of the Borgias ever since the Horrible Histories song :D :music:

Tywin = Rodrigo ;)

When it comes to personality and how they react to their situations I think Cersei and Lucrezia are very different :) If she reminded me of anyone from the Borgia family it would be cunning, evil Cesare :evillaugh:
JohnnyClark Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
hahaha you have a point there. I havent read that much of the Borgias, but if I were to compare Cersei personality to any Borgia I would have to say that she remind me of Jofre, underestimated, evil Jofre
bubbly12 Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Uh I know I commented before, but why did you post this in the Anne Boleyn Group if you don't like her? People will think your bashing on her and will give you rude comments. Just saying.
SingerofIceandFire Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012
Because I mentioned Anne in my post :invisible:

I'm not bashing on her. I'm just criticising her actions and 'intelligence'. As far as I'm concerned she was innocent and didn't deserve to be in an abusive marriage especially when she doesn't know the first thing about queenship
bubbly12 Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
But still, people might take it the wrong, I mean because they're big fans of Anne Boleyn. So they, in their own opinion believe she was very smart and was a true queen for them. Why else would they make a group for her. I'm telling you to take it off, I'm saying. Nobody likes negative comments.
Kaoru-Lynn-Kamiya Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think your wrong about Anne Boleyn there is more to her she never wanted his attraction on her. She was a very brave woman to turn down the King and give his gifts back even she saw what happen to her sister and never wanted it to happen for herself. Before all that happen she was proby a very caring and loving soul that when Henry got a hold of her and kept changing the rules of their marriage where she couldn't tell him how she felt or be truthful with each other. TBH about the other Henry I don't think she really loved him she just wanted someone to marry I'm not a King Henry VIII and Anne fan just feel like she loved the King far more. You don't get jealous of someone stealing your husband. Also Henry and Catherine's marriage had ended long before Anne came into the picture and was wanted by Henry. She refused him because she respected herself too much to become his mistress and his soul one at that. Jane did the SAME THING she played the game like Anne did and she only won because Anne miscarried her Son. Jane died giving England the much waited for Prince but by the time Henry was growing tired of her also. aside from that I think people miss understand Anne Boleyn she wasn't a whore or anything she was just innocent victim that fell in love with the wrong person. HENRY made the choices about Mary not Anne. Anne tried to befriend Mary but she refused to it was easy to just to accept Anne as Queen and she would of been brought back into her fathers favor. Anne's father also had a very bad role in Anne's life when her sister slept with the King but still he pushed Anne into the Kings way. I believe Anna never really wanted to be Queen she just wanted to be a wife and a mother. but that is just my believe and I think she was innocent of everything. Henry had his own mind he listen to others but made the choice himself........... Henry is a pig I've said it to others once before
SingerofIceandFire Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012
If it was between
A) be the king's mistress for a bit like every other woman. When he's done with you he'd probably let you marry Henry Percy or some one else
B) make yourself the most hated woman in Europe, with only the protection of your fickle abusive husband. Whilst you gamble and risk everything on a son when both your mother and sister have had a past of miscarriages
I'd choose A :)

Catherine was England's queen and England doesn't care if their marriage is failing. Henry should've waited for her to die (which probably wouldn't have taken very long) instead of making himself so unpopular, tear his country apart and lose ties with Europe

I wouldn't say Anne loved Henry, I think that was an effect from domestic abuse. But I'm glad you're not honey coating their abusive marriage :)

My opinion of Anne is the same as my opinion on Cersei
a) queenship destroyed them
b) they would've been so much happier with a loving, respectful husband
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